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JØrgen 'John' Jans 1843

Son of Christian Constantine F. Jans & Anna Maria Grau

&Louisa Maria Hansen

Great Grandparents of Max

 

Birth: JØrgen 'John' Jans was born 20th November 1843, (confirmation 1858), at Ketting Augustenburg Denmark, the son of Christian & Anna Jans.

 

Ketting Parish Register entry for Jorgen Jans birth 1843

 

Schooling: A daughter of John told the story of her grandfather Christian being a herdsman at the Danish castle farmlands. Three princesses at this time were being privately tutored and Christian's sons were invited to have lessons with the girls to give them competition. (I find this hard to imagine because the ages of the girls and the boys were years apart and for there to be competition when John Jans would only have been 5years old when the Duke and his family fled the castle.) I wonder if it wasn't John's father and his brothers who were tutored with the princesses because they were much the same ages.)

A school record book from Augustenburg school exists and there is mention of both John and his brother Andrew for the years 1854-1856. It states the boys were diligent students with only a few absent days and always with good reason. In 1856 the boys were moved to Sebbelau school.

 

1845 Census County Sonderborg, District Als Sonder, Parish Ketting, Place Name - Dorf Ketting

Johann Jans (John) then aged 2 years birth place Ketting, living with his parents Ferdinand Jans (Christian Constantine Ferdinand) age 30 years (b.Tonning) and Anna Maria Grua (b.Sebloe)

 

 

 

 

Jørgen 'John' Jans

aged 24years.

Photo taken after his arrival in Australia and was sent home to Denmark mounted in a golden ivory frame (right)

 

Now the photo has found its way back to Australia, compliments of Per Grau MØller.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Denmark to Australia

This is my interpretation of Jørgen "John' Jans arrival in Australia from information I have on hand. I have found no evidence of John Jans jumping ship as story has it. Unless this occurrence happened on the return to Australia from NZ.

 

Lighthouse

Jørgen 'John' was 20years of age when he sailed to Australia from the port of Hamburg, Germany, aboard the ship "Dorothea" about January 1863. (This ship is named on John's naturalisation papers).

Description of the voyage from a letter written by John Jans shortly after his arrival in 1863 to his family back home in  Alsen Denmark .

The journey lasted 13weeks, occasionally having bad weather and sometimes no wind. We were blown almost to the coast of Brazil before rounding South Africa. The letter indicates he was travelling alone although in company with others from the same area. According to the passenger list John arrived Melbourne Australia on 10th April 1863. His name is recorded as Jurgen Jens aged 19yrs from Sebbelow Holstein. There is conflict with the date of arrival given on the naturalisation memorial, here it's stated 24th August 1863.

 

Andreas 'Andrew' Jans followed his brother John to Australia in 1866.

(From a letter in the possession of family members in Denmark)

In 1866 Andreas wrote a letter to his family from Hamburg on his  way to leaving for Australia. He tells of his brothers instructions as to how to get there and who to get in touch with. At that time John had gone to New Zealand digging for gold. No arrival has been located for Andrew but he did come to Melbourne. I found him on a Melbourne outwards passenger list of the ship "Alhambra" bound for New Zealand. He gave his age as 21years, single, and a miner. He arrived at Hokitika on 5th January 1867.

When the brothers returned to Australia is unknown.

 

Was National Service the reason why the Jans brothers left Denmark? This could be explained in the newspaper article below.

Translation from a Danish Newspaper artical:

 Mrs Marie Grau nee Jans comments on the fate of the Jans brothers.

 

WENT TO AUSTRALIA TO BECOME GOLD DIGGERS
 

No one in the family would have dreamed that these two brothers (Jorgen & Andreas) would get such a changed existence. After the war in 1864 came the turning point in their life.

      They were from a good Danish home, and North Slesvig's inclusion in Prussen (Germany) gave the people of North Slesvig German citizenship, but also duties.

The heaviest was subscription, it had been suspended from 1864 to 1866 but in 1867 began call up for

National Service that frightened the Danish of North Slesvig to be in a situation to bear arms against Denmark.

      Thousands of people of North Slesvig became refugees, because after only a short stay in Denmark they could be expelled from North Slesvig. Many went away, and for thousands who went it was their intention to return to that part of the country.

      That was men of hope, strong in their belief and conviction for the nation. It turned out different for their hopes. The rejoining with Denmark took a long time, and the result was that they did not return. This is what happened to the brothers Jans. The two brothers went to Australia. It was for them the country with rich possibilities. They would try their luck with digging gold.

      The two gold diggers were quiet for many years. Relatives at home were afraid something was wrong and their mother spoke so often of her two boys. She was hoping every day that she again would get in contact with them and it happened.

      After several years searching through a Danish paper " the Danish Pioneer" that was the link between home and abroad the brothers sent word. They had established a good life. Henceforth a regular contact was established between North Slesvig and Australia.

      Their mother in Augustenborg received photographs of her boys in Australia. One picture exists no longer, the other illustrated in this article shows Jorgen Jans at 24 years was photographed shortly after arriving in Australia. The picture is kept in the original box, ebony with gold frame. The symbol of his involvement with gold digging. Both brothers got married in Australia, and of the next generation one son got to be mayor of Melbourne. (Has anyone heard of this??)

       Mrs Marie Grau nee Jans said " My father (Jacob) established the contact, and for him and all of us at home it was delightful to have contact with them in Australia.

Apparently all correspondence stopped from Australia from 1876 until 1895, for what reason nobody knows. It is believed John was mining in the Reefton area of the Upper Yarra in Victoria about 1880.

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Double Wedding

Marriage: John Jans was 38year old when he married 17year old Louise Marie Hansen on 11th February 1882 in a double wedding ceremony with his 34year old brother Andrew Jans and Louisa's young 14year old sister Eleanor Hansen at 108 Johnson Cresent Emerald Hill (South Melbourne), Victoria Australia. As the girls were very young they had the permission of their father Frederick Hansen.

Wife's Birth: Louisa Maria Hansen's birth was  registered in 1864 (No.16557)  daughter of  Frederick Hansen  and Maria Ellen Clark.

Louisa Jans nee Hansen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This photo above is believed to be a young Louisa Hansen

 

 

Naturalization:

John became Naturalized on 5th February 1900. This is a memorial for letters of naturalization completed by John in September of 1899 showing his age as 56years, occupation carpenter, place of birth Augustenburg Germany, ship of arrival Dorothea from the Port of Hamburg.

 

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Hamburg Shipping List

The dates of arrival differ between John's naturalization and the list but is this a mistake on John's part after 40 odd years? The spelling of the name on shipping list is incorrect is this a transcribers mistake?

 

 

 

 

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John is believed to have taken part working on the diversion of the Yarra River and worked the "Big Peninsular" in the hope of finding gold.

A report by Clement Hodgkinson Deputy Surveyor General

"Strike" Company at McMahons Creek handed over workings to a party of Tributers, who were making a wage from the reef (1905). The Jans were working on this field along with C.Sparke and many more.

John leased crown land to build a house and outbuildings at McMahons Creek. He was responsible for the planting of avenue of oak trees, some of which were still there some years ago. In later years they moved to South Melbourne. When Louise died John went to live with his son Frederick at Traralgon.

Deaths: Louisa's death is registered at South Melbourne in 1924 aged 60years.

John died aged 86years on 15th September 1929 at Traralgon West  Louisa & John are both buried at Coburg Cemetery Melbourne, Victoria.

 

After his wife died John went to live at Traralgon with his son Fredrick .

Family of John & Louisa Jans

7th Generation

1. William John  JANS b.1882 Warburton Victoria d.1950 Ormond 68years m. Nancy Bella (Isobel) Berry

Link to William John Jans & Family information pages

 

2. Harry JANS b.1884 Warburton d.1969 m. 1.Hennrietta Cosham 2. Mary Gingles

Link to Harry Jans & Family information pages

3. Louise Maria JANS b.1886 Warburton d.1942 Saint Kilda 56years

4. Frederick Christian JANS b.25th August 1888 at Warburton d.4 Aug.1942 Morwell Vic. aged 54years m. 1919 Ettie Beasley

5. Alice Maude JANS b.1890 Warburton d.1958 Mt Waverly Vic. 68years m. 1910 George Freeman Sparks

6. Janet Katherine JANS b.1895 Warburton d.1985 Elsternwick Victoria 89years. Not married

7. Arthur Samuel JANS b.1897 m. Lillian Pearl Melynda Colgrave d.1934 Sale Victoria aged 36years Buried Traralgon Cemetery.

8. Robert George JANS b.1899 d.1984 Ferntree Gully m. Kathleen Hilda Russell

LINKS

7th Generation

Harry Jans & Family Grandparents of Max

William John Jans & Family information pages

This is a work in progress and in time links will be made to information on the families above.


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